Totally agree with all three of you. On a slightly different slant, I was always amused at those witnesses who gave thanks before eating the wonderful gift god had provided, and then turned their noses up at it because it wasn't cooked to their liking. Such gratitude in the face of so many that are going hungry But why are so many going hungry? - perhaps they just aren't thanking god properly like good JWs.
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I don't get it - Praying before eating while ...
by menrov ini noticed recently.
there was an item in the news on some terrible / horrific child pornography in germany.
really disgusting to hear what these people were doing with children as young as a few months.
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Overlapping Generation
by pandorasbox1914 inthe september 2015 broadcast had david splane explain matthew 24:34 “truly, i say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place”.
his explanation of this scripture was by means of a chart to indicate an overlapping generation.. .
no scripture was used to show the overlapping generation concept, and as a result it makes no sense.. to illustrate how crazy this concept is, look at the lyrics of the song my generation.. my generation.
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either way it still makes no logical sense
I never said (nor did I wish to imply) that it made any sense. It is arguably the most absurd explanation of a biblical text ever proposed, but if we're going to shoot it down, we ought to at least be accurate about what we are shooting down
The WTS came up with a theological spin that has no relevance to intellectual honesty or either scriptural support from the bible.
Absolutely agree - you've only got to go to the start of Matthew's gospel to see that (Matt 1:17).
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Overlapping Generation
by pandorasbox1914 inthe september 2015 broadcast had david splane explain matthew 24:34 “truly, i say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place”.
his explanation of this scripture was by means of a chart to indicate an overlapping generation.. .
no scripture was used to show the overlapping generation concept, and as a result it makes no sense.. to illustrate how crazy this concept is, look at the lyrics of the song my generation.. my generation.
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It's been said before (even earlier in this thread) but it seems to need saying again - the WTS does NOT teach "overlapping generations". It teaches ONE generation composed of overlapping groups within that generation.
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Notable Watchtower Quotations
by Vanderhoven7 inlet's share some notable wts quotations that demonstrate the arrogance, ignorance, hypocrisy etc.
of the watchtower leadership.
“‘zion’s watch tower’ has, we believe jehovah for its backer, and while this is the case it will never beg nor petition men for support.
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Awake! June 22, 2000, page 6.
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Notable Watchtower Quotations
by Vanderhoven7 inlet's share some notable wts quotations that demonstrate the arrogance, ignorance, hypocrisy etc.
of the watchtower leadership.
“‘zion’s watch tower’ has, we believe jehovah for its backer, and while this is the case it will never beg nor petition men for support.
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Awake! June 22, 2000, page 10.
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How do you feel about identifying roughly where you are from ? Country, Region,State ?
by smiddy3 inhi friends ,.
is it just me or do others on this forum like to know where posters are from ?
what country state or region you are from ?
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North Essex, UK - Witchfinder General country.
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J. W's Are Afraid of Old Literature
by IWant2Leave ini'm reading babylon the great has fallen, god's kingdom rules, published 1963. this was studied years ago when i was about 10-12 years old.
i wanted to just read some of the beliefs from decades ago.
my wife wants to know why i'm reading this book.
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Reading "older publications" published by the Watchtower is actually encouraged.
It certainly used to be Atlantis, but you will find nothing like the following in any Watchtower written in this century, the irony of this becoming old light is quite striking;
“Those who really are growing in maturity find that familiarity with basic theocratic publications is a tremendous aid ... Their zeal for knowledge may even prompt them to dig back into things that were published long before they came into the truth, expanding and deepening their understanding, and ever growing in Christian maturity. Do you dig out older publications to expand and deepen your knowledge … Have you really studied these earlier publications? ... How is your background of knowledge? ... Studying them is not a chore, but a pleasure when your interest is not in the number of pages you are to read, but rather in the knowledge that you will get, ... Never think: “Oh, I know most of that.” For you will find, indeed, that you do not … And once you have completed your study of them you can then look to even older publications. ... studying earlier publications and digging back through previous issues of The Watchtower ... There is much in the way of spiritual riches and aids toward mature knowledge in these earlier publications, and their study is most certainly worth your time. By checking back through the Society’s earlier publications you will … rejoice to see your understanding continue to grow.” (Watchtower, May 15, 1957, pages 313, 314 and 315). -
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Has anyone ever turn down being appointed an Elder or MS?
by Davros inhas anyone turned it down or know of someone who did turn down being an elder or ms?.
yes, it should be one of the biggest privileges a brother can get !!
(how do i put the barfy icon in?
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The Presiding Overseer of my congregation chaired the process of appointing the very first body of elders in our congregation back in 1972/73. Six were announced, including the PO, but at the very next meeting it was announced that the PO had declined the role and needed a rest after being the PO for about a decade, which must have made him one of the very first people to decline such a role. He then spent several years as a regular dub before getting back into the saddle. I think he went straight up to being an elder without passing MS, and later became a CO. After that I lost track as I lost contact with them all.
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Do as we SAY, but not as we DO!
by BoogerMan in"it's easier to fool people than it is to convince them that they've been fooled.
it's not just jw's who blindly follow their leaders.
it's horrifying to see how easily mass-hysteria has been instilled in a nation.
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When I saw Friday's Dilbert strip I thought of this thread.
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Do as we SAY, but not as we DO!
by BoogerMan in"it's easier to fool people than it is to convince them that they've been fooled.
it's not just jw's who blindly follow their leaders.
it's horrifying to see how easily mass-hysteria has been instilled in a nation.
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BoogerMan
nor have I ever heard anyone else say, that Covid 19 is not a serious killer
Oh No? What do you make of these two earlier in this thread?;
Matt
i knew the virus was fake when it was first announced in china
Attomat
The main reasons for bringing about this pandemic hoax
However Boogerman, I acknowledge that you have a point that has nothing to do with conspiracy theorists. In all wars there are casualties, and you are perfectly right to question where those casualties should be. There is an argument for simply allowing this pandemic to run its course and accept millions of deaths, most of which would be the elderly, who are non-productive anyway, and those with an underlying health condition, who are more likely to die sooner rather than later, so no big deal. We must also add the many thousands of front line medics and carers, and accept the heavier toll this virus would take on our black and ethnic minority groups. You are free to argue that all those casualties are an acceptable price for keeping our economies intact, but you are doing more than that. You are saying that those of us who don’t accept that price are being fooled.
I’m quite happy to come back next year to debate who advocated the best strategy.